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Well, it's certainly important to guard your mind and what you are exposed to that is true. But we do differ like you said in that I don't believe one can suddenly (or gradually) "become gay".RauCous said:Movedtoanswer said:You see a lot of times people say:
"Why would you go for men when there are all these sweet women in the world?" as if their own sexuality and attractions were conscious, rational thoughts. But then they have to answer:
When did you decide to find women sexually attractive?
What factors went into the decision to do so?
How long did you take to decide women were attractive to you?
There was no "choice". One day, after years of thinking girls had "cooties" and were annoying, you began to like them all of a sudden.
It was not a logical move. You never sat down and said: "Okay, women make babies and if I want to have a family I must take a female sexual partner, so because I want children I will decide to find girls sexually attractive."
You just liked them all of a sudden, and well, if you liked them and they were around maybe you could get to kiss one or something...
When does this happen? Around puberty?
Well in the same way, I believe people with same-sex attractions when they tell me that around puberty when other guys were suddenly beginning to notice girls they were suddenly beginning to look at guys in the same way; and that when they tried to like girls like everyone else they just couldn't respond in the same way. Why? Who knows? But I doubt at that age they ever, ever, ever wanted to be different to their peers in any way--especially when things are going strange with everybody's bodies and stuff.
Now if you believe that homosexual behavior is wrong and you believe this also, then the proper (to me anyway) response is not scorn but pity/sympathy. Here are a bunch of people with feelings they never wanted. What are they supposed to do?
I don't believe they should act on it; but that's just like asking a straight boy/man to be celibate for life. Or like telling them: "Well if you try hard enough you'll find guys attractive."
Some people actually believe that (and this refuse to wear pink...lol). I don't think that is very possible at all. I don't think straight men can just "decide" to get an erection when they see an attractive member of their own sex.
We all know that has a mind of its own.
That's just like asking them to "decide" not to find any other woman but their wife/girlfriend sexually attractive. Now they can decide not to cheat, but they certainly cannot switch off their brain circuits when they go out without their wife.
I'm not disputing that tendencies dont exist, i'm just saying theses tendencies whereever they come from are born of unnatural consequences. I should have said this before but i seriously belive that homosexual behaviour is taught or even thrusted unto some people. And if you buy into it you WILL become gay, erections and all. If I had believed what alot of people told me about my sexual orientation i know i would be gay. Wait does this make me a closet gay? Do i harbour feelings of men inside? Am I in denial of something i cant change?... i doubt that. Like i said before humans inevetably have perverted thoughts, even if they dont see it as such. Its the indulgence or the fact that we entertain these options that determine what we are. And its proven people find pleasure in all kinds of things, including pain... but it dosent mean these things are right.
I know wanting something doesnt alway cause it to happen and i almost went into a spiritual argument but i'll not go there. Thats where we differ on opinion, i belive we are beings of choice, whether those choices are conscious or unconscious, choices based on what we expose ourselves to or what is exposed to us.
But thinking about it, the mind is a strange thing. I do think you can do anything you put your mind to. So in that sense it it theoretically possible; but I don't believe it is common if so.